[Smt-talk] First Species Question

[Panayotis Mavromatis]

Hi Dmitri,

If you allow voice permutation, as your last example suggests, then there's also the octave-leap cadence---e.g., (A2, E3, C#4) -> (A3, D3, D4)---which, far from being exceptional, is rather idiomatic in early Renaissance music.

Best,

Panos Mavromatis
New York University


On Jul 6, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Dmitri Tymoczko wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Recently I found myself looking through various first-species counterpoint rules and I noticed that neither Fux nor Jeppeson nor Gauldin prohibits consecutive (contrary motion) fifths in first-species counterpoint:
> 
> 	e.g. (C4, G4)->(F3, C5) or (C4, G4)->(C5, F4)
> 
> This led me to two questions:
> 
> 	1) Does anyone know of a set of first-species rules that *does* prohibit consecutive fifths of this sort?  In particular, what's the earliest treatment of the issue?
> 	2) Can anyone think of any examples, preferably in two voices and from some Josquin-to-Lassus Renaissance master, of this sort of thing?
> 
> I can think of examples of consecutive fifths in three separate voices, as in (C3, G3, x) -> (D3, x, A3), but that's not as dramatic.
> 
> Thanks!
> DT
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