[Smt-talk] Princeton and Theory

[Jane Clendinning]

Colleagues,

Listing the type and area of a doctoral degree inaccurately on a CV or
position application is "falsifying credentials", which is quite a serious
matter.  This type of intentional inaccuracy could be grounds for getting
fired (because you were hired under false pretenses) or could get an
applicant removed from a job application pool if the falsehood is noted by a
committee member ( . . . if someone would lie about that type of
information, which can easily be verified by checking to see which degrees a
university grants or by calling references, how can the person be trusted on
anything else?).

It is essential to list your degrees, employment experience, and other
matters accurately on your CV.  A situation like Leslie's could easily and
accurately be handled by listing the correct degree name and area, and also
listing the dissertation advisors, title, and (if desired) a brief
description.  A DMA is a different degree (with different requirements) than
a Ph.D., and a degree in musicology and one in theory normally involve
different degree requirements as well . . . including differences in the
types of exams and the expectations and standards dissertation research.

I don't want graduate students, or anyone else applying for jobs, to read
this email stream and think they can assign any name to their degree (or any
title to their teaching position) they wish; instead be accurate, and give
as much information about your training or experience as necessary to
represent what you have actually done, if you have background that crosses
over disciplines.  That allows the search committee to consider your
credentials with all factors in mind.  To do otherwise is dishonest, and
could be very costly to your career.

Jane Clendinning


Jane Piper Clendinning
Professor of Music Theory
Florida State University
College of Music 
Tallahassee, FL 32306-1180
Office phone:  850-644-3424 to leave message
Email:  jclendinning at fsu.edu
 
-----Original Message-----
From: smt-talk-bounces at lists.societymusictheory.org
[mailto:smt-talk-bounces at lists.societymusictheory.org] On Behalf Of Leslie
Kinton
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 11:41 AM
To: SMT Talk
Subject: Re: [Smt-talk] Princeton and Theory

I agree with Paul.  My Ph.D. is listed as one in musicology (U of T refuses 
to allow theory doctorates), but my dissertation was a complete foreground 
and middleground Schenkerian analysis of Dvorak's 7th Symphony, and my 
advisors were David Beach and Ed Laufer who are certainly not musicologists.

On my CV, I list it as a theory doctorate.  As Paul said, a rose by any 
other name....

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Leslie Kinton, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Piano Performance
Don Wright Faculty of Music
University of Western Ontario
Anagnoson & Kinton website:  www.pianoduo.com

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Setziol" <setziolpaul at earthlink.net>
To: "Dmitri Tymoczko" <dmitri at Princeton.EDU>; "SMT Talk" 
<smt-talk at societymusictheory.org>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Smt-talk] Princeton and Theory


> Hello all,
>
> About Dmitri's post below -
>
> Isn't it reasonable to say that a PhD. is a theory PhD. if the 
> comprehensive examinations and dissertation are in theory?  The other 
> posts bringing up composition/theory might be judged accordingly.  What is

> the nature of the dissertation?
>
> A rose by any other name...
>
> Best wishes
>
> Paul Setziol
> Musicianship Coordinator and Department Chair
> Music Department
> De Anza College
> Cupertino, California
> USA
>
> setziolpaul at earthlink.net
> setziolpaul at deanza.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Dmitri Tymoczko <dmitri at Princeton.EDU>
>>Sent: Nov 19, 2010 6:11 AM
>>To: SMT Talk <smt-talk at societymusictheory.org>
>>Subject: [Smt-talk] Princeton and Theory
>>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I wanted to take a moment to clarify the situation vis-a-vis theory
>>and Princeton.  Currently, Princeton has four people who do theory:
>>Kofi Agawu, Scott Burnham, Noriko Manabe, and me.  Together, we cover
>>a pretty broad range of topics from analysis to history of theory to
>>Schenker to semiotics to popular music to whatever it is that I do.
>>Kofi and Noriko, of course, also do ethnomusicology.
>>
>>Formally, the department offers degrees in composition and in
>>musicology; which means that would-be theorists have to apply to one
>>of these programs (typically musicology).  However, for the past
>>several years we have been making a concerted effort to make a home
>>for people who want to be theorists.  This includes, e.g., designing
>>general examinations geared toward theory and analysis, advising
>>solidly theoretical dissertations, and so on.  And we currently have a
>>small-but-impressive group of theory grad. students.
>>
>>Our program is not for everyone, since we can't offer a whole suite of
>>"Intro to ... " courses.  But for the right sort of (independent, self-
>>motivated) person, it can be a great place to learn theory.  So I
>>would definitely encourage interested students to take a look at our
>>program.
>>
>>DT
>>
>>Dmitri Tymoczko
>>Associate Professor of Music
>>310 Woolworth Center
>>Princeton, NJ 08544-1007
>>(609) 258-4255 (ph), (609) 258-6793 (fax)
>>http://music.princeton.edu/~dmitri
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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