[Smt-talk] Pieces with improvisatory openings

donnadoyle donnadoyle at att.net
Sun Oct 23 08:04:52 PDT 2011

Dear Mitch,

You might consider the Haydn Creation opening (plus, its extra-musical  

Also, the Pathetique Sonata, Chopin's C#m Etude, Op 25.

If you're interested in tracing this phenomenon's historical origins,  
a consideration would be recit/aria, which, for me, some later exx  
(esp 19th c) seem to imitate.

Best regards,
Donna Doyle
Queens College, CUNY

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On Oct 21, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Mitch Ohriner <mohriner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Collected Wisdom and Beloved Scholars,
> I’m interested in studying the emergence of tempo from the perspecti 
> ve of the listener. One viable case study for this phenomenon is the 
>  class of pieces that begin with short, improvisatory passages that  
> precede more temporally patterned movements proper.
> This is slightly different than the phenomenon previously discussed  
> on this list in which the most salient level of time-span  
> organization is initially obscured in preference for a faster or  
> slower rate (i.e., London’s “metric fakeout”).
> A paragon of what I’m looking for would be Chopin’s G-minor  
> Ballade, Op. 23. I’ve also been directed to Schumann’s String  
> Quartet No. 3, Op. 41, no. 3.
> Do you know of other tonal examples like these? I’ll take responses  
> off-list unless they’re of general interest.
> Thank you for your thoughts and I look forward to seeing many of you  
> at our Annual Meeting next week.
> Best regards,
> Mitch Ohriner
> mohriner at gmail.com
> Assistant Professor of Music Theory
> Shenandoah Conservatory
> Winchester, VA
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