<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Perhaps these early/ folk examples are the products of the use of natural instruments (as opposed to chromatically valved/keyed).<div>Often found in bagpipe music are both the lowered seventh and raised fourth scale degrees filling in the major pentatonic scale--</div><div>resulting in the 'acoustic' or 'lydian-flat 7' scale. (An NYPD piper demonstrated this for me several years ago.)</div><div><br></div><div> Donna Doyle<div><div apple-content-edited="true"><div> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Aaron Copland School of Music</font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Queens College</font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">65-30 Kissena Blvd.</font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Flushing, NY 11367</font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">tele: 718-997-3819</font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">fax:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>718-997-3849</font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">email: <a href="mailto:donna.doyle@qc.cuny.edu">donna.doyle@qc.cuny.edu</a></font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">email: <a href="mailto:donnadoyle@att.net">donnadoyle@att.net</a></font></p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><br></p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">____________</p> </div> </div><br><div><div>On Jun 12, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Nicole Biamonte wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"> <div><font face="times new roman,serif">How broadly are you defining "popular"? The earliest examples I know are 16th-c. passamezzo antico/romanesca-type patterns, e.g. "Greensleeves." There are lots of later instances from the Anglo-American folk tradition, such as "Drunken Sailor," "Scarborough Fair," and "She Moved through the Fair" (19th c?). Another example from 1947 is Burton Lane's "Old Devil Moon."</font></div> <div><font face="times new roman,serif"></font> </div> <div><font face="times new roman,serif">Nicole Biamonte</font></div> <div><font face="times new roman,serif">Assistant Professor of Music Theory</font></div> <div><font face="times new roman,serif">University of Iowa</font></div> <div> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"> <div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><span id=""></span><br></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">My question: does anyone here know how long the neighboring subtonic has been used in popular music? Feel free to e-mail me privately.</font></div> <div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><br></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Thanks!</font></div> <div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><br></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Michael Buchler</font></div> <div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><br></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">-----------------------------------------------------------</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Michael Buchler</font></div><font color="#888888"> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Associate Professor of Music Theory</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Florida State University College of Music</font></div></font></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Smt-talk mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Smt-talk@societymusictheory.org">Smt-talk@societymusictheory.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.societymusictheory.org/listinfo.cgi/smt-talk-societymusictheory.org" target="_blank">http://lists.societymusictheory.org/listinfo.cgi/smt-talk-societymusictheory.org</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br> _______________________________________________<br>Smt-talk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Smt-talk@societymusictheory.org">Smt-talk@societymusictheory.org</a><br>http://lists.societymusictheory.org/listinfo.cgi/smt-talk-societymusictheory.org<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>