The track mentioned by Ildar is "Holidae In" by Chingy, featuring Snoop Dogg and Ludacris.<br><br>*Clean* version here: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr2MnZjHpAE" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr2MnZjHpAE</a><br>
<br>Less-clean version here: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv5QzqsdwJw" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv5QzqsdwJw</a><br><br>Paul Steinbeck<br>
Post-Doctoral Fellow in Music Theory<br>University of Chicago<br><br><div><div><span class="e" id="q_123b3e99bea6f32c_1"><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/12/09, <b class="gmail_sendername">Nicole Biamonte</b> <<a href="mailto:nbiamonte@aya.yale.edu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">nbiamonte@aya.yale.edu</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Ildar Khannanov <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:solfeggio7@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">solfeggio7@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:</div>
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<div>As for supertonic triad as a substitute for subdominant triad, it does not exist! If we are talking about root position supertonic triad in major, it is used very rarely because there is a serious problem connecting it with tonic, and that is a very serious voice leading problem : there are no common tones indeed and no purpose of resolution. In minor this chord is an absolute nonsense. Only Snoop the Dogg uses it after the tonic triad ( "I've been a sittin in a Holiday Inn...etc). </div>
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<div>I don't know the Snoop Dogg song, but adjacent parallel triads with no common tones are plentiful in the rock repertoire, although--as noted earlier in this thread--progressions with major II are rare. One example of a I-II oscillation that came up in a private exchange with Paul Steinbeck is the repeated Fmaj7-G of Fleetwood Mac's "Dreams." However, because of the melodic prominence of A and especially E, and the lack of Fs in the melody, it is also possible to parse these chords as bVI-bVII in A minor, a harmony that is stated only briefly in the bridge. I wonder if this might be one of Mark Spicer's "absent tonics." I don't know of any other examples like this; it's actually easier to find examples of Phrygian I-bII oscillations.</div>
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<div>bVII-I and bVII-i oscillations are far more common, in folk music as well as in rock. The subtonic in this context could function as dominant, subdominant, or linear neighbor-chord to the tonic; which of these interpretations makes the most sense depends on other factors in the particular song. </div>
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<div>Just to bring this thread back around to the original topic of I-II-IV-I, I heard another example today: the verse of Queen's "A Kind of Magic."</div>
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<div>Nicole Biamonte</div>
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