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color:#1F497D'>My reference to timbre in the previous post with regard to
Jonathan's <i>Dichterliebe</i> example is obviously incorrect. My apologies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:smt-talk-bounces@societymusictheory.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dunsby,
Jonathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> smt-talk@societymusictheory.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Smt-talk] Fwd: First Species Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>...fifths are (and sound like)
fifths, no matter what registers... </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Well you say that, but almost as another thread I'm wondering just how and
where, from a theory-building point of view, the illusion of 'part'
integrity kicks in or doesn't? When e.g. a voice actually dips under
the piano bass line in a 19C Lied, how come we don't hear it as the 'bass'
(shades of Dichterliebe No. 2, of course, beloved of us theorists, but such
happens all over Western art music, here and there)? My teacher always said
"because that's what Messiaen taught us". But is there a history-of-theory
etiology to this issue or perhaps non-issue? (Obviously, fifths with the
'bass' and fifths entailing only inner parts are not, in general, the same
thing....)<o:p></o:p></p>
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