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<font face="Calibri">Dimitar,<br>
<br>
If you have all the answers to all your questions, I do not see
why you ask them, nor what you expect from us all.<br>
<br>
As I tried to show in my preceding message, Rousseau was unclear
as to the meaning of subdominant, and wrote: "</font>I may be
mistaken in the acception of these two words, not having under the
eyes the writings of Rameau as I write this article. He may
understand by subdominant simply the note that is one degree under
the dominant." I added that it was not Rameau who first gave the
name, but probably Dandrieu, and that Dandrieu most probably
understood the word as meaning "the degree under the dominant". This
is how the term is understood in French today. See my article
"Scale, polifonia, armonia" in J. J. Nattiez ed., <i>Enciclopedia
della musica</i>, vol. II, <i>Il sapere musicale</i>,<i> </i>Einaudi,
2002, p. 84, which is precisely about that question of the
difference of conception between German and Roman languages.<br>
<br>
Nicolas Meeùs<br>
Université Paris-Sorbonne<br>
<br>
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<br>
<br>
Le 25/02/2012 00:22, Ninov, Dimitar N a écrit :
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Since I-IV is acoustically and functionally more impressive than IV-V in a I-IV-V-I progression, the question "What follows the tonic?" is more relevant in identifying the harmonic function of IV than the question "What precedes the dominant?" The former question is an equivalent to a more important question, namely "How do we leave the state of stability?". On the other hand, "What precedes the dominant?" is an equivalent of the question "What is the lower degree of instability?" which does not seem as important.
According the the logic explained above, the arrangement T-S-D-T makes perfect sense, but T-PD-D-T does not, for it answers the question "What is the lower state of instability?" instead of answering "How do we leave the state of stability?". This argument, paired with the fact that harmonic functions refer to the tonal center, in my view renders the label "PD" both superfluous and superficial.
Thank you,
Dimitar
Dr. Dimitar Ninov
Texas State University
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dn16@txstate.edu">dn16@txstate.edu</a>
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