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<div data-externalstyle="false" dir="ltr" style="font-family: 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif';font-size:12pt;"><div>During the thoroughbass era, basic chords were taught at the keyboard in terms of hand positions: 1st position = 1st degree of the scale in the uppermost part; 2nd position = 3rd in the uppermost part; and 3rd position = 5th in the upper part. Have a look at Fenaroli 1775. </div><div><br></div><div>Nick</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="padding-top: 5px; border-top-color: rgb(229, 229, 229); border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid;"><div><font face=" 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif'" style='line-height: 15pt; letter-spacing: 0.02em; font-family: "Calibri", "Segoe UI", "Meiryo", "Microsoft YaHei UI", "Microsoft JhengHei UI", "Malgun Gothic", "sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;'><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:solfeggio7@yahoo.com" target="_parent">Ildar Khannanov</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 19 March 2014 21:53<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ovaisala@siba.fi" target="_parent">Olli Väisälä</a>, <a href="mailto:trevor.declercq@gmail.com" target="_parent">Trevor de Clercq</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:smt-talk@societymusictheory.org" target="_parent">smt-talk Talk</a></font></div></div><div><br></div><div dir=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Dear Olli,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>the same in Russian terminology: "in position of the prime, in position of the tertia and in position of the quinta." And, yes, the words from another language (Latin) are used in order not to confuse students. In the very beginning (in early chapters of Sposobin's and other textbook) a student has to analyze the function of the chord, its spacing and, necessarily, the "position" (i.e., what is in soprano). There is also a discussion of how this "position" changes the expressive quality of a chord.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>So, there are two terminological clarifications: transformational (obrascheniye vs. peremescheniye) and essential (position in
soprano).</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Best,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Ildar Khannanov</span></div><div><span>Peabody Conservatory</span></div><div><span><a href="mailto:solfeggio7@yahoo.com" target="_parent">solfeggio7@yahoo.com</a></span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:50 AM, Olli Väisälä <ovaisala@siba.fi> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container">><br clear="none">> My question: Is there a technical term for different voicings of <br clear="none">> the right hand? I realize I can't retrain the piano teachers of <br clear="none">> the world to use a different
term. But does something like "first <br clear="none">> voicing," "second voicing" exist?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">A good question. I also have wondered how to express these in English.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I teach in two languages, Finnish and English. In Finnish, I can use <br clear="none">terms that literally translate to "octave-position," "third-position" <br clear="none">and "fifth-position" in English, to identify the tone of the soprano. <br clear="none">I suspect that similar expressions are used in other languages. <br clear="none">However, these don't seem to work in English (partly because interval <br clear="none">names are the same as normal ordinary numbers).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Olli Väisälä<br clear="none">Sibelius Academy<br clear="none">University of the Arts, Helsinki<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:ovaisala@siba.fi" target="_parent" shape="rect">ovaisala@siba.fi</a><div class="yqt9303926809" id="yqtfd28020"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Smt-talk mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:Smt-talk@lists.societymusictheory.org" target="_parent" shape="rect">Smt-talk@lists.societymusictheory.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="http://lists.societymusictheory.org/listinfo.cgi/smt-talk-societymusictheory.org" target="_parent" shape="rect">http://lists.societymusictheory.org/listinfo.cgi/smt-talk-societymusictheory.org</a></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div> </div>
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