<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Dear List and Jeffrey,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>I agree that the list should be reserved for pure knowledge; for other issues there is FB. However, when the chairs will be pulled from under each of us, we will have to acknowledge the danger of the situation. NEH is an important resource, we do not have many other funding opportunities.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>As for the second part of Jeff's replica:</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>the 6/4 discussion was initiated by Dr. Dmitri Tymoczko and, if I have the right of opinion, I should say that it was the most fruitful discussion of a theory topic I have ever encountered. It was more informative than many of the peer-reviewed paper publications in the WoS journals, many of which are now switching to electronic format because of the crisis of readership.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0,
0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>The Bashing of Schenker is an oxymoron. Schenker bashed 25 centuries worth of music theory; there is nothing wrong in giving him the taste of his own medicine.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>The only person that received postings ad hominem, so far, was your faithful. I regret that this has happened and join the colleagues in the desire of keeping the listserv within
the purposes of professional field.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Best wishes,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Ildar Khannanov</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Peabody Conservatory</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><a href="mailto:solfeggio7@yahoo.com">solfeggio7@yahoo.com</a> </span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 8:38 AM, Jeffrey Perry <jperry@lsu.edu> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container">If one task of scholarly discourse is to question foundational assumptions<br>and ³settled² truths, Dr. Whitcomb¹s thread certainly qualifies. Maybe<br>instead of a meta-discussion about whether or not we should have a<br>discussion about support for the NEH, the list might benefit from a<br>discussion about the value of public arts funding
in principle, and about<br>the NEH as a (beleaguered, underfunded) model specifically. Surely there<br>are list members with experience in the NEH grant writing and reviewing<br>process who could provide useful details.<br><br>By the way, what threatens to drive people away from smt-talk, in my<br>opinion, is not necessarily politics, but (in no particular order)<br>‹Posts about the cadential 6/4<br>‹Schenker-bashing for its own sake<br>‹Lengthy polemics of any sort that substitute for, rather than supplement,<br>peer-reviewed work on a given subject. Bonus points for ad hominem vitriol.<br><br>With best wishes to all for a pleasant spring,<br>jp<br>Jeff Perry<br>Professor of Music Theory<br>277 Music and Dramatic Arts<br>School of Music, College of Music & Dramatic Arts<br>Louisiana State University<br><a href="mailto:jperry@lsu.edu" ymailto="mailto:jperry@lsu.edu">jperry@lsu.edu</a> / (225) 578-3556 (voice) / (225) 578-2562 (fax)<br><br>
<br><br><br>On 4/8/14, 6:55 AM, "Whitcomb, Benjamin D" <<a href="mailto:whitcomb@uww.edu" ymailto="mailto:whitcomb@uww.edu">whitcomb@uww.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br>>Hello Dr. Berry,<br>><br>>No, I am talking about NEH. It is not hard to find examples online of<br>>projects that they have funded that many people would consider wasteful,<br>>although many of the folks on this list might not consider any of them to<br>>be. But, no, I don't think that does affect the argument at hand.<br>><br>>Do you think that it is desirable to have a discussion list dedicated<br>>only to the discussion of music theory?<br>><br>>-or-<br>><br>>If there is a benefit to having political discussions on this fourm, is<br>>it outweighed by the costs of driving away some of the members?<br>><br>><br>>-Benjamin<br>><br>>Dr. Benjamin Whitcomb<br>>Professor of Cello and Music Theory<br>>University of
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