<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Dear Colleagues,<br><br>I confess that, like Jeff, I often find that postings to SMT-Talk move from good to bad (or bad to worse). The recent thread on the once-called "feminine cadence" has been (to me) particularly dismaying in too many ways for me to enumerate here. <br>
<br></div>As has been noted, I thought this issue was one we had worked out in the early 90s. <br><br></div>Each year, I teach a graduate seminar that focuses on an introduction to the fields of theory and musicology. I usually do at least one week on gender (looks like I should devote more time to the topic). Students often tell me that they don't understand what the big deal is, since (to them), issues of non-sexist language are what my Dean likes to call "a no brainer." I think next year I'll show them the recent thread to let them know that, no, these issues haven't been settled (sadly). Sadly (x2), the thread will also serve to make some of my students stop wondering why there is such a gender gap in SMT. You could not stage a better forum for driving women away from theory. We've seen a discussion by primarily men (myself included) about whether or not sexist language is. . . err. . . really sexist. We've had one posting trying to tell women (I'm guessing -- the author never makes the intended audience clear) the best strategy for overcoming sexist remarks, which sounded a bit like the "sticks and stones" strategy. Frankly, it's unbelievable to me. <br>
<br></div>Unlike Jeff, I will not be unsubscribing to SMT for two reasons, one of which is more high minded than the other. The first reason is that I often view these things as I would a car wreck. You know you shouldn't slow down to look, but somehow you can't help yourself. The more high-minded reason is that I remain hopeful that people's better natures will lead to more thoughtful discussions of issues in and around music theory. <br>
<br></div>Having said all of this, I think if you showed the recent thread to members of a department outside of music theory, you'd find your colleagues to be appalled. <br><br></div>My 2 cents.<br><br></div>--Michael<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Jeffrey Perry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jperry@lsu.edu" target="_blank">jperry@lsu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">It’s interesting to recall that the current thread began with a posting telling us that after a conference presentation that most of us had not heard, a questioner used a term that most of us had never heard of. We were then enjoined under
no circumstances to use this term.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Predictably, a lengthy series of trolls and counter-trolls ensued. Lost in the shuffle were several posts about the actual chord progression that was ostensibly referenced in the original posting. Also lost were several reminders that SMT
has non-sexist language guidelines in placethat, in any event, would prevent such sexist provocations as the original bit of terminology from making it into a peer-reviewed venue.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As I noticed back in the early ‘90s, bad internet traffic tends to drive out good internet traffic; eventually, almost every online discussion venue becomes unusable, if it lasts long enough. We’ve reached that point with this list, friends.
I’m unsubscribing and I urge you to do so as well. The SMT Publications Committee will have to tackle this in Milwaukee.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does smt-talk exist to enhance conversation about published work? Does it take the place of published work? Is it a forum for discussion of life as a music theorist? Is it intended as a bridge between card-carrying music theorists and others
with an interest in the field? These questions were never answered, and for a long time this was OK as long as the list conveyed more information and good, clean fun than noise, ill will and vitriol. Thathasn’t been the case for quite some time.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To allow this forum (smt-talk) to continue, spreading heat without light and without a clear mission, would be criminal. Its multiple conflicting purposes are now fulfilled in any of a number of different ways: social media sites dedicated
to music theory (as any given person understands the term) are not hard to find.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I won’t say “See you later,” as I communicate with many of you in other places. But please consider this a plea for some serious decision-making by SMT. It’s way past time.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>Jeff Perry</div>
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<div>277 Music and Dramatic Arts</div>
<div>School of Music, College of Music & Dramatic Arts</div>
<div>Louisiana State University</div>
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