<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="font-family: Garamond-LightNarrow;"></div><div style=""><div>Am 24.05.2014 um 21:55 schrieb Peter Schubert, Prof. <<a href="mailto:peter.schubert@mcgill.ca">peter.schubert@mcgill.ca</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: Garamond-LightNarrow; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3">I always found it ironic that Palestrina is the model for general principles of melody writing. This has been the case since Jeppesen, a scholar who admired Palestrina's tunes for their Wagnerian qualities, and who had no idea how counterpoint works.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3">I would like to be a fly on the wall of the present-day counterpoint classrooms where this type of writing is taught—is it just recycled Jeppesen? It's for sure not any historical source: no treatise in the Renaissance addresses "good melody writing" (except for the most obvious errors). Palestrina, like everybody else, stole, modeled, recycled, and wrote brilliant tunes, but there was no theory of melody in his day.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"> </font></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3">All that said, I agree with Victor Grauer that melodies are formed in context, and that IS supported by at least one theorist then: Juan Bermudo, who says “counterpoint is the father of melody.”</font></span><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><o:p></o:p></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><br></font></span></div><div style="font-size: 14px;">Peter Schubert</div><div style="font-size: 14px;"><div>Schulich School of Music</div><div>McGill University</div><div>555 Sherbrooke St. W.</div><div>Montreal, QC H3A 1E3</div><div>(514) 398-4535 x00281</div></div></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote class="" style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;" type="cite"><div class=""><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><br class=""></font></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></span>_______________________________________________<br>Smt-talk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Smt-talk@lists.societymusictheory.org">Smt-talk@lists.societymusictheory.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.societymusictheory.org/listinfo.cgi/smt-talk-societymusictheory.org">http://lists.societymusictheory.org/listinfo.cgi/smt-talk-societymusictheory.org</a></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>