[Smt-talk] Math-music structure of Plato's Dialogues

Nicolas Meeùs nicolas.meeus at paris-sorbonne.fr
Fri Jul 2 11:07:49 PDT 2010


Even more: the fact that a tight-knit text is based on the number 12 or 
on integral ratios does not necessarily allow to conclude that these 
ratios represent musical intervals, or that the number 12 represents the 
octave, etc. The Pythagoreans believed that music was based on simple 
ratios and may have thought that simple ratios were a kind of music. 
Only the Pythagoreans among us still think so; but are they not a bit 
old-fashioned?

Nicolas Meeùs
Université de Paris Sorbonne
École doctorale "Concepts et Langages"
Centre de recherche "Patrimoines et Langages Musicaux"
http://www.plm.paris-sorbonne.fr
nicolas.meeus at paris-sorbonne.fr


Daniel Wolf a écrit :
> [...]  The notion that a dialogue, with a dramatic form, would be 
> broken up dramatically into parts corresponding to the simplest 
> rational intervals does not strike me as particularly surprising — 
> many writers (not least US undergrads writing term papers or blue book 
> exams with fixed word counts)  look at the rough proportions of their 
> texts and pay attention to how much space is left to be filled and how 
> to fill it best, frequently landing, intuitively on similar ratios — 
> so it remains for Kennedy to provide some convincing evidence for the 
> necessity of an octave-based musical/harmonic interpretation.
>
> Dr. Daniel Wolf
> composer
> Frankfurt
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