[Smt-talk] Fwd: First Species Question

donnadoyle donnadoyle at att.net
Wed Jul 7 08:12:42 PDT 2010


Perhaps this illusion is created by the role of the solo as the melody  
(top line), no matter what its register. Schenker addressed this  
issue, didn't he?

Donna Doyle

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On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:15 AM, "Dunsby, Jonathan" <jdunsby at esm.rochester.edu 
 > wrote:

> ...fifths are (and sound like) fifths, no matter what registers...
>> Best regards,
>> Donna Doyle
>>
>> Aaron Copland School of Music
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>> Well you say that, but almost as another thread I'm wondering just  
>> how and where, from a theory-building point of view, the illusion  
>> of 'part' integrity kicks in or doesn't? When e.g. a voice actually  
>> dips under the piano bass line in a 19C Lied, how come we don't  
>> hear it as the 'bass' (shades of Dichterliebe No. 2, of course,  
>> beloved of us theorists, but such happens all over Western art  
>> music, here and there)? My teacher always said "because that's what  
>> Messiaen taught us". But is there a history-of-theory etiology to  
>> this issue or perhaps non-issue? (Obviously, fifths with the 'bass'  
>> and fifths entailing only inner parts are not, in general, the same  
>> thing....)
>>
>> Jonathan
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>> Eastman School of Music
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