[Smt-talk] Looking for a chord progression

Patrick McCreless patrick.mccreless at yale.edu
Fri Oct 7 06:56:20 PDT 2011


Also not after 1800, but closer:  the coda of the final movement of 
Beethoven's Piano Trio, Op. 1, No3, in C Minor.  About 60 bars from the 
end, an octave G descends to an octave F#, and the theme is stated in B 
minor, for a number of measures.  Then a simple 5-6 motion brings a V6 
in C minor, and back to C.

Something to check, post-1800:  Unfortunately, I don't have a score 
handy, but the first movement of Schubert's (incomplete) *Reliquie* 
Sonata, D. 840, in C Major (1825), has an S theme in B minor.  I'd have 
to look at the score to see if there's a literal C-b-C move in it, but 
it's worth a try (also in the Development...).


Pat McCreless

On 10/7/11 8:41 AM, Mark.AnsonCartwright at qc.cuny.edu wrote:
> Dear Scott,
> I don't know a post-1800 example of this, off the top of my head. But 
> if you look at the opening chorus from Bach's St. Matthew Passion,
> you'll find Am-G#m-Am (6/3 chords over a bass F#) in two places: mm. 
> 14 and 87. The chords aren't used cadentially, but they sure are striking.
> Best,
> Mark
> Mark Anson-Cartwright
> Aaron Copland School of Music
> Queens College, CUNY
> Mark.AnsonCartwright at qc.cuny.edu
> -----smt-talk-bounces at lists.societymusictheory.org wrote: -----
>     To: SMT Talk <smt-talk at societymusictheory.org>
>     From: "Murphy, Scott Brandon"
>     Sent by: smt-talk-bounces at lists.societymusictheory.org
>     Date: 10/07/2011 08:29AM
>     Subject: [Smt-talk] Looking for a chord progression
>     Collective wisdom, do you know of, and, if so, are you willing to
>     share, an example of a clear and deliberate CM: CM-Bm-CM
>     progression or a transposition of such a progression in music
>     after 1800 (double leading-tone cadences from the Medieval period
>     need not apply)?  Chordal inversion of any or all of these chords
>     is fine.  A transposition of the minor version (Cm: Cm-Bm-Cm)
>     would also be acceptable, as would the last two-thirds of either
>     progression.
>     Thanks!
>     Scott
>     --
>     Scott Murphy
>     Associate Professor, Music Theory
>     University of Kansas School of Music
>     smurphy at ku.edu
>     P.S. I'm prepared to handle examples where a "neighborly" bass
>     goes 1-2-1. :-)
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