[Smt-talk] Beethoven 4th (was Ranking Ludwig's symphonies)

Nicole Biamonte nbiamonte at aya.yale.edu
Tue Dec 24 05:56:12 PST 2013


So, are the Hyde symphonies masculine or feminine?  Just curious.

Nicole Biamonte
Music Theory Area Chair
Schulich School of Music
McGill University
nicole.biamonte at mcgill.ca



> Thanks for reminding us that Beethoven was the quintessential
> Classic/Romantic composer. He was capable, as you have demonstrated, of
> being the lovely, sweet, rational purveyor of perfectly pleasant music, and
> then he could turn around and write music that was way ahead of its time in
> terms of the wildness and storminess of its aggressive, muscular character.
> The order of his symphonies has always reminded me of Jekyll and Hyde in
> the way the characters alternate from odd numbers to even--in antiquated
> terminology, from masculine to feminine. This duality works great for a
> writer of symphonies but you wouldn't want to marry a guy like this. ^ _ ^
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> May your modulation to the new year but smooth and easy.
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> On Dec 20, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Michael Luxner <mluxner at mail.millikin.edu>
> wrote:
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>  From Grove's *Beethoven and His Nine Symphonies:*
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> "There is something extraordinarily *entrainant* about it throughout; a
> more consistent and attractive whole
> there cannot be.  In the Eroica some have complained of the Funeral March
> as too long, some of the Scherzo as inappropriate, or of the Finale as
> trivial; but on the No. 4 no such criticisms are possible; the movements
> fit to their places like the limbs and features of a lovely statue; and,
> full of fire and invention as they are, all is subordinated to conciseness,
> grace, and beauty."
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> They sure don't write 'em like that anymore...symphonies or criticism!
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> Happy holiday, everyone.
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> Michael Luxner
> Millikin University
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> >>> Larry Barnes <lbarnes at transy.edu> 12/18/2013 10:03 PM >>>
> I'm listening to #4 right now, and love it. It turns my head toward beauty
> unexpectedly, precisely because it doesn't demand my constant attention.
> And I don't always need dangerous places.
> It's nice to just come home and rest sometimes between adventures.
> Larry Barnes
> Transylvania University
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