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[Andie Sigler]

Cope wrote several books about his programs without conveying enough
information to make any real use of his ideas. He failed to advance the
state of knowledge in the field of computational music generation. A review
can be found in Tom Collins' PhD thesis. (
http://www.tomcollinsresearch.net/publications.html) This includes an
analysis of a Cope (EMI) piece revealed to be a Chopin piece with some
notes erased and new notes filled in.

Studying Cope's algorithms, which unfortunately are not available for
study, would be (at best) a study of how to chop up pieces and put parts
together in a different order. I would rather a deeper study of invention
and thinking with basic musical materials.

I think there are fundamental problems that haven't been solved nearly as
much as some people think. The field of computational music generation is
still very young, and evaluation methodologies for *systems* aren't in
place -- essentially: evaluating just the *output* of systems without a
real understanding of the system is inadequate (e.g. for some of the
reasons described in this and my earlier post).

Andie Sigler
McGill University
Montreal
On Apr 29, 2013 1:02 PM, "Ciro Scotto" <ciro.scotto7 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> David Cope has programs/algorithms that write inventions and fugues. Even
> better than studying the algorithms, would be creating them. Even Sibelius
> notation software has some rudimentary composition algorithms. We are
> almost at the point where a modern version of the John Henry folktale will
> be needed. Here is a link to some material:
>
> http://www.computermusicjournal.org/reviews/29-1/handelman-cope.html
>
> All the best,
>
> Ciro
>
> Dr. Ciro G. Scotto
> Assistant Professor of Music Theory
> University of South Florida
> home:    (813) 443-6801
> e-mail:
> cscotto1 at usf.edu
> cscotto at tampabay.rr.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:48 AM, Isaac Malitz wrote:
>
> Aren't there computer programs that can write conventional fugues?
> If so, then what is the point of a student writing a conventional fugue as
> an excercise?
> Wouldn't it be more useful for a student to study the algorithms that can
> generate a conventional fugue?
>
> (I think the above are very interesting questions)
>
> Isaac Malitz, Ph.D.
> imalitz at omsmodel.com
> www.OMSModel.com
> 818-231-3965
>
>
> This notice on Craig's List was brought to my attention:
>
>
> "I am willing to pay $50 on paypal for a someone who has advanced
> classical composition skills to write my final project for my Counterpoint
> II class. It is two sections of an invention including the exposition and
> episodes and modulation. It would need to be done on finale or cyballius.
>
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