[Smt-talk] Caution versus Generalization

Dave Headlam dheadlam at esm.rochester.edu
Thu Aug 29 07:14:04 PDT 2013


Frank et al -- There's some nuance to be added here.  Dan's text (p. 
309) states that "First, he [ Erpf] remakes harmonic function from a 
three-termed into a two-termed dualism--in other words, from a 
conception of a central T and two lateral areas, S and D, to one 
involving an 'on' Tonic state and an 'off' non-Tonic state.  Although 
both traditional Subdominant and Dominant categories are retained, they 
are now the two basic aspects of the non-Tonic state . . . "   Dan goes 
on to show Erpf's indications for the "off" state differentiate S from D 
and major from minor, and that Erpf's examples show elements of "both 
Dominants" ("Doppeldominanten") within chords, such as a "V11" chord 
combining a bottom D and upper S:  G-B-D-F-A-C.

Dave Headlam

On 8/28/13 8:02 PM, Frank Samarotto wrote:
> Re: [Smt-talk] Caution versus Generalization Nicholas,
>
> I rely here on Harrison's excellent survey of Riemann's followers: Did 
> not Hermann Erpf simplify Riemann's functions down to just two: T or D?
>
> Not quite a household name, but perhaps shows the dangers of 
> reductionist theories like Riemann's. (Insert emoticon here.)
>
> Best,
> Frank
>
>
> Frank Samarotto
> Associate Professor of Music Theory
> Jacobs School of Music
> Indiana University Bloomington
>
>
>
>
> On 8/28/13 4:25 PM, "Nicolas Meeùs" <nicolas.meeus at scarlet.be> wrote:
>
>     Dimitar,
>
>      I fail to imagine ANY theory of harmony having "repudiated" the
>     subdominant function. If this once again is an attack against
>     Schenker, let me repeat that you are very much mistaken, that
>     there is nothing of the kind to be found in any of Schenker's
>     writings. If you are thinking of some other theory, I'd be very
>     interested to know.
>
>      Nicolas Meeùs
>      Université Paris-Sorbonne
>
>
>
>
>     Le 28/08/2013 01:23, Ninov, Dimitar N a écrit :
>
>
>
>         All in all, I think that the repudiation of the subdominant
>         function ...
>
>
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